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CIDC/City responce to CB 13 recomendations
Mar 16th, 2009, 12:22am
 
Dear Community Board 13 Chairwoman Cleaver:
As a former Community Board Chair, I fully respect the critically important role of the Board in addressing the needs of their local residents and in shaping the future of their neighborhoods. Since 2003, when the City and CIDC began the process of developing a framework for Coney Island, we have worked cooperatively and, I think, successfully with your Board.
It is with this positive experience in mind that I was surprised to read about CB13's draft resolution in Grain's before the Land Use Committee's members even had a chance to discuss or review its contents at the meeting. Furthermore, many of the conditions in the resolution were not discussed previously, and as the full Community Board prepares to vote on the resolutions this evening, no one representing the City has been given the opportunity to address them.
The City's plan has two main goals: to preserve the amusements and the unique heritage of Coney Island, and to create jobs and housing for the more than 50,000 residents of this neighborhood. Several elements of your proposed resolution work in direct opposition to these goals. You ask that the amusement area not be mapped as parkland even though parkland is the most rigorous regulatory regime that is allowed by law to protect the amusements. You also ask that the Key Span parking lot not be demapped as parkland, but doing so will prevent the development of 2,700 housing units (including 540 affordable units), critical retail services, the creation of thousands of jobs and hundreds of additional parking spaces.
In fairness to the City and the members of your community, I would like to take this opportunity to respond to your committee's recommendations as distributed in the draft CB13 Land Use Committee resolution that was approved on Monday evening. I have compiled detailed responses drawn up in coordination with the Department of City Planning, the Coney Island Development Corporation, and the New York City Economic Development Corporation in the attached document and ask that you please read through the pages that follow. Thank you again for your time and consideration in this matter. We look forward to working with CB13 on Coney Island's renaissance and redevelopment, as we have been for the last several years. Feel free to reach out to me at any time.


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Re: CIDC/City responce to CB 13 recomendations
Reply #1 - Mar 16th, 2009, 12:23am
 
EDC RESPONSE to CB13'S PROPOSED CONDITIONS FOR PASSAGE OF CONEY PLAN
1.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Remove from consideration the construction of WONDER WHEEL WAY. With its removal, more open acreage will be available for needed additional rides and amusement area attractions. The Bowery will continue to be the main walkway linking the iconic amusement features and the new ones accepted.
CITY RESPONSE:
The location of Wonder Wheel way has been publicly discussed in presentations since June 2008, and until now there have been no comments submitted on this issue by any landowner or member of the public at either of the EIS scoping hearings or any other public meeting (including the Community Board's hearing last week). The proposed street mapping is an important component of the development of the enlarged, consolidated amusement area and is key to the operations of a successful amusement park.
2.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Maintain the KEY SPAN PARKING LOT with a multi-level parking lot for additional autos. No building and/or construction on this site where parking is needed until such time as more-than-sufficient off-street parking areas are identified. There shall be NO Alienation of Park Land on this entire KeySpan Parking Lot area!
CITY RESPONSE:
Without the proposed alienation of parkland, the full development of Coney West can not move forward. Without the proposed alienation of parkland, there will be no Highland View Park, no new streets in Coney West and most importantly no new housing, affordable housing, no additional parking for the area and no jobs that would be generated from this development.
3.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Redevelopment of the ABE STARK ICE SKATING RINK on its current site. The Rink makeover should begin as soon as possible. If the RINK must be moved, it must be restructured conveniently within the Coney Island peninsula. Should a new site be selected, the current RINK must continue to operate until the opening day of any new Rink.
CITY RESPONSE:
The Abe Stark Rink is likely to remain where it is for the next several years. As has been detailed and described, at the time at which the site is ready for development the City will accommodate the Rink within the community.
4.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Follow-up traffic studies e.g. ingress and egress to and from the peninsula shall be done, at least, once every two years, and for 20 years thereafter. Ongoing evaluations should be maintained as to the traffic patterns in and out of the peninsula with careful analysis of the methodology of large-scale evacuations in the cases of storm surges, flood, blackouts, and other natural and/or man-made peninsula catastrophes. An immediate analysis and plan should be put into effect.
CITY RESPONSE:
Consultation with NYCDOT on traffic study is ongoing and since certification of the project into ULURP, they remain involved in the traffic analysis component of the project. They will continue to be involved as development occurs. The Office of Emergency Management (OEM) will continue to be engaged in planning and outreach efforts as they have been with CB13 previously
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Reply #2 - Mar 16th, 2009, 12:24am
 
5.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Create a SPECIAL AMUSEMENT ZONE. The City should not zone the area as parkland unless it owns all of the property involved. The Community should be part of the RFP process. Two members of the Community must be part of the RTF process.
CITY RESPONSE:
The current C7 zoning has failed to protect the amusement uses. Parkland is what protects amusements. A "Special Amusement Zone" that expands the allowed uses to include restaurants, movie theaters, and other complimentary uses will not, on its own, be able to guarantee that amusements survive in Coney Island, as the process to change zoning or obtain a variance is fairly easy. Through the mapping of Parkland, amusements will be protected and we will be able to develop a world-class twenty-first century amusement park. Additionally, it should be noted that the mapping of Parkland is what gives the City the authority to acquire property, so it is sequentially impossible to expect that the City own property before the Parkland is mapped. Should the parkland mapping proceed as proposed in the amusement area, the City will work with representatives from the amusement industry as well as local elected officials and community stakeholders to draft an RFP for a state-of-the-art amusement park.
6.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Remove any potential EMINENT DOMAIN and/or CONDEMNATION consideration in order to allow extant small businesses and rides e.g. Eldorado and its neighbors to continue operating without threats or anxiety over the future. No Eminent Domain and/or condemnation may be considered.
CITY RESPONSE:
The Community Board has misread the ULURP application.   Within Coney East, there is no threat of eminent domain for any of the properties or businesses that are north of the proposed Wonder Wheel Way, including El Dorado and its neighbors. For properties within the proposed mapped streets and within the proposed mapped parkland, the ULURP does contemplate the option of acquisition by condemnation because procedurally such mapping actions grant the City this authority and it is important to preserve this option for the effectuation of new streets, new infrastructure, and the amusement preservation strategy. However, it has been clearly stated on multiple occasions that it is the priority and preference of the City to acquire property by negotiation.   The City is actively engaged in discussions with all affected landowners.
7.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Initiate work on the antiquated INFRASTRUCTURE on the peninsula in order to safeguard any new construction. The problems of drainage, sewers, water lines, electricity, power, and other infrastructural needs must be eradicated to ensure quality-of-life for current residents of Coney Island.
CITY RESPONSE:
We agree that Coney Island's infrastructure needs work. Improvements to infrastructure are a vital component of the City's comprehensive plan. The first step towards addressing infrastructure needs in Coney Island is the approval of the ULURP before the Community Board right now. In addition, the City will continue to work with the Department of Environmental Protection on an Amended Drainage Plan which will specifically address the stormwater and sanitary systems in the area. The DEIS also details considerations for other infrastructure systems that will be upgraded throughout the district.
8.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Avoid any construction of new buildings that eclipse the height of the Parachute Jump.
CITY RESPONSE:
We agree. This recommendation has already been incorporated in the proposed zoning text.
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Reply #3 - Mar 16th, 2009, 12:24am
 
9.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Ascertain that all new housing construction in the North and West sectors be affordable, including WORK FORCE HOUSING. No new housing should be contemplated on the south side of Surf Avenue that will be higher than whatever height is allowed on the north side. The view of the ocean must be unobstructed. The pattern of 80% to 20% (market rate to affordable) must remain the norm from which negotiations may proceed.
CITY RESPONSE:
There is no standard definition of or any active established City programs that use the term, "Workforce Housing," and thus it is difficult to understand what the Community Board is suggesting. Within the proposed plan, the City is using the most powerful tool it has—Inclusionary Zoning, which provides incentives to encourage the inclusion of 20% affordable—to encourage affordability on sites within Coney North and Coney West. The Bloomberg Administration has vastly expanded the production of new affordable housing throughout the City and this remains a key priority at Coney Island.
10.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Reconstruction of the BOARDWALK must be initiated, perhaps through help from the current Stimulus Package funds allocated to the City., Funds must be guaranteed to see that this begins in the light of the fact that the Boardwalk is the pivotal link between the entire shore area, its amusements, and its residents to the West and East of the amusement zone.
CITY RESPONSE:
The City is in agreement that the Boardwalk needs repair. The Parks Department is currently implementing a pilot program that is testing different options for Boardwalk reconstruction while simultaneously addressing particularly problematic sections of the Boardwalk. This project is underway and will be completed in phases throughout the next several months. The City is also working to identify funds for future repairs and will look into the possibility of securing federal stimulus dollars.
11.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Initiate work on the long-planned upgrading of the NEW YORK AQUARIUM, which then remains as a key anchor to the amusement district and to the peninsula. Money for the Aquarium's needs for its new Shark Tank and other exhibits should be made available now.
CITY RESPONSE:
There is currently funding in the City's budget for upgrades to the Aquarium. The City will continue to work with the Aquarium and the community on the various projects to ensure that the Aquarium becomes a 21st century entertainment and educational facility for all.
12.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Create more efficient TRANSPORTATION to and from the 'island' with the use of express trains on existing transit lines - not only the F - but include each of the lines that reach the shore area. Extended service must be planned for weekends, in particular, with at least increased services from 10am to 7pm. In addition, there should be the initiation of FERRY SERVICE to and from Lower Manhattan and Coney Island.
CITY RESPONSE:
The strongest message of support for improved subway service that the Community Board can send is the approval of this ULURP application. The proposed development will likely increase rider ship demand, strengthening the argument for express train service.
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Reply #4 - Mar 16th, 2009, 12:25am
 
13.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Replace plans for amusement area stores that would entail only 2,500 square feet of uses. No Big Box stores may be allowed, but there should be an alteration to the plans for stores that are no more than 10,000 square feet of footage in order to draw potential new shop owners.
CITY RESPONSE:
Allowing retail spaces of up to 10,000sf within the amusement area will attract "mall-like" national retailers such as general clothing stores (Gap, Abercrombie, Payless, etc.), home products (Pottery Barn, Dollar General, CVS, etc.), and electronics (RadioShack, BestBuy, etc.). These retailers belong in Coney North and Coney West where the City is providing approximately 500,000 square feet of retail in the new zoning. Permitting retail up to 10,000 square feet in Coney East will ultimately drive out what is left of the amusements, and not allow small business owners to compete with national chains.
14.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Funds must be made available for needs at CONEY ISLAND HOSPITAL, which will be faced with the problems of a widely increased population of residents, tourists, work force, and visitors. Particularly needed is a new EMERGENCY ROOM to handle larger turnovers of people-n-need. Funds should also be made available for upgrading of existing Hospital facilities that need modernization to serve this new era of Coney Island.
CITY RESPONSE:
While the Modernization Plan for Coney Island Hospital is a very worthy cause, it is just one of many important improvements that the City and the community would like to see take place in Coney Island, and is the subject of its own budgeting process that is apart and separate from this ULURP application.
15.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Searches should be ongoing to determine potential sites for OFF-STREET PARKING. Restaurants and other new businesses should not be responsible for handling their own off-street parking measures; it should be the role of the City.
CITY RESPONSE:
Overall, approximately 6.500 new spaces are provided as part of this rezoning. Development in Coney North and Coney West would provide sufficient off-street parking within their respective sections to accommodate parking demand generated by the proposed rezoning. The parking associated with Coney East would be distributed to one on-site facility and several off-site facilities as previously described in the DEIS.
16.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Plans for the Block and Lots of GARGIULO'S Restaurant ownerships so that the establishment may construct new building(s) that will enable a new Surf Avenue entrance restaurant, a 1000-seat catering hall on the roof. Railroad Avenue, no longer an existing street, must be removed from all mapping plans so that the resultant Gargiulo's building will have continuity in height and architecture. Gargiulo's shall be allowed to build a parking garage atop new stores/facilities on W. 19-20 Sts., with possible six stories of indoor parking area, with an exterior facade that will match the architecture of the new building. The new building, on the southside of Surf Avenue directly across from the current Gargiulo's parking lot shall have an FAR lower than that of the northside new building.
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Re: CIDC/City responce to CB 13 recomendations
Reply #5 - Mar 16th, 2009, 12:25am
 
CITY RESPONSE:
This recommendation is in direct conflict with recommendation #8, as it would allow GARGIULO'S Restaurant to exceed the height of the Parachute Jump.
17.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
There must be ongoing JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS and UNION APPRENTICESHIP activities to prepare local residents for jobs in the renaissance of the peninsula. Local residents shall be given preference for employment (pre-and-post construction) as well as first preference for the purchase of the involved housing units. Involved employees should receive prevailing wage with accompanying benefits.
CITY RESPONSE:
The comprehensive plan as proposed has the potential to create as many as 25.000 construction jobs and 6,000 permanent jobs. Providing workforce development services and helping to generate economic opportunities for Coney Island residents have been key goals for City. The CIDC has already developed programming, sponsorships, partnerships, and other initiatives related to providing improved connections to existing resources as well as new local job training opportunities. Additionally, the City will work with all property owners and developers to develop additional training and apprenticeship opportunities.
18.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
A maximum number of three hotels may be considered with one of them a water park hotel. They will be built on the northside of Surf Avenue.
CITY RESPONSE:
The City maintains that hotels are integral to a successful year-round amusement and entertainment area. Hotels have the potential to create year-round economic activity and many employment opportunities. The proposed zoning will allow hotels north of Surf Avenue between Stillwell and West 16th Street, and within the Coney East district only on blocks that front on Surf Avenue, giving the property owners the option of developing an appropriate hospitality use on those sites.
19.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
A new school shall be built at the available site at Surf Avenue and West 29th Street.The School Construction Authority should consult with the Community Board concerning what type to school should be built, i.e., grade, middle, high school.
CITY RESPONSE:
Councilmember Recchia, the Mayor's Office, and the Department of Education have discussed the citing of a future school on HPD-owned property at the Northeast corner of Surf Avenue and West 29th Street.
20.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Purchase should be made of the Shore Theater Building (once the Loew's Coney Island Building) for use as a Community Arts Center.
CITY RESPONSE:
The City agrees that the Shore Theater has the potential to be a cultural destination and an anchor of the amusement and entertainment district, and maintains that the best way to facilitate the building's reuse and reactivation is through the passage of the proposed zoning. The Community Board should recall that the City has committed to building a state-of-the-art community center (YMCA) in Western Coney Island, which was a direct request from the community during the initial planning of the proposed comprehensive plan now before this Community Board.
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Reply #6 - Mar 16th, 2009, 12:40am
 
wow... allot to read and digest here.

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Its all about the land between the Aquarium to Keyspan, south of Surf Ave.
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Reply #7 - Mar 16th, 2009, 12:48am
 
this is the one that had everyone shocked, both the CIDC/EDC people and the amusement activists.  unlucky #13.  no one asked for more retail or big box retail at the public hearing!  After the voting, when someone gave a speech and mentioned the retail, the CB chair responded by stating she'd researched it and that 10,000 sq ft was NOT big box retail!

13.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Replace plans for amusement area stores that would entail only 2,500 square feet of uses. No Big Box stores may be allowed, but there should be an alteration to the plans for stores that are no more than 10,000 square feet of footage in order to draw potential new shop owners.

CITY RESPONSE:
Allowing retail spaces of up to 10,000 sf within the amusement area will attract "mall-like" national retailers such as general clothing stores (Gap, Abercrombie, Payless, etc.), home products (Pottery Barn, Dollar General, CVS, etc.), and electronics (RadioShack, BestBuy, etc.). These retailers belong in Coney North and Coney West where the City is providing approximately 500,000 square feet of retail in the new zoning. Permitting retail up to 10,000 square feet in Coney East will ultimately drive out what is left of the amusements, and not allow small business owners to compete with national chains.
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Reply #8 - Mar 16th, 2009, 1:39am
 
This is the Sitt buster which proves that anyone who says Sitt had a hand in those 20 points are wrong

18.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
A maximum number of three hotels may be considered with one of them a water park hotel. They will be built on the northside of Surf Avenue.
CITY RESPONSE:
The City maintains that hotels are integral to a successful year-round amusement and entertainment area. Hotels have the potential to create year-round economic activity and many employment opportunities. The proposed zoning will allow hotels north of Surf Avenue between Stillwell and West 16th Street, and within the Coney East district only on blocks that front on Surf Avenue, giving the property owners the option of developing an appropriate hospitality use on those sites.


Read the last part.  'only on blocks that front surf?  all the parcels front surf, which is why they dont want tall condo towers blocking the view of surf to the ocean.  Who driving down Surf will see any amusement rides??

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Its all about the land between the Aquarium to Keyspan, south of Surf Ave.
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Reply #9 - Mar 16th, 2009, 1:48am
 
There is also this part:

2.      COMMUNITY BOARD RECOMMENDATION:
Maintain the KEY SPAN PARKING LOT with a multi-level parking lot for additional autos. No building and/or construction on this site where parking is needed until such time as more-than-sufficient off-street parking areas are identified. There shall be NO Alienation of Park Land on this entire KeySpan Parking Lot area!
CITY RESPONSE:
Without the proposed alienation of parkland, the full development of Coney West can not move forward. Without the proposed alienation of parkland, there will be no Highland View Park, no new streets in Coney West and most importantly no new housing, affordable housing, no additional parking for the area and no jobs that would be generated from this development.


Saying that they need to alienate Steeplechase/Keyspan Parking lot in order to create Highland View Park, is wrong I beleive.  You can create new parkland.  But if you cannot destroy (alienate) designated parkland without transferring it to another plot of land.

They want to attach one act to another, but that is only because they want to free up that land so Taconic or some other land developer can build on it.  Anytime they want, they can designate new parkland.

The Mets have a long term lease on this land.  If the whole project is based on the Mets giving up their parking lot, then this plan is dead in the water for the next 20 (or whats left on the lease) years.

This is also the land that Kruger doesnt want to alienate, give up for development, not a real park, but a parking lot.

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Its all about the land between the Aquarium to Keyspan, south of Surf Ave.
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Reply #10 - Mar 16th, 2009, 1:58am
 
#4 is what interests me the most. Coming and leaving Coney Island.  When traffic gets bad in Coney, they dont allow people to enter Coney via Ocean Parkway into Surf Ave.  They force people to make the right turn onto West 5th, where you can be stuck in traffic all the way up to Neptune.  Going these two blocks can take you 1/2 hr.

All I read is that they are doing studies with dept of transportation, they will look into it, but they dont give any real answers.

There is no money to do this, but they should build a multilevel parking garage over the train yard north of the Belt and there is already the subway lines connecting the train yard into stilwell.  And you have easy access to it via the belt, which is above ground at this point already.  I just hope cars can enter the parking complex without stopping traffic on the belt.

Yes, this would cost $$$$$ but it is a solution.

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Its all about the land between the Aquarium to Keyspan, south of Surf Ave.
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Reply #11 - Mar 17th, 2009, 9:34am
 
Do you have a Link, or was this an email from CIDC?
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